Uh! . . . Sorry this is going to be messy. This topic isn't really in my head at the moment, but the basics as I can quickly recall is:
The engine of the evolution of intelligence the whole way up to brains, was the advantage of responding faster to changing environments. being able to follow food currents or search out new food area's when one area was consumed rather then simply dieing out gave advantage. being able to remember strategies that worked gave even more, but genetic memory was slow and ..clumsy, so eventually the pressure for survival led to brains that could remember the experiences of a single organisms lifetime and selectively sort/adapt strategies built on that knowledge. this more intelligent sifting of the organisms experiences of the changing environment around it, allowed it to respond more dynamically to a chaotic world. weather type environments follows trends for long sometimes very long periods of time, but then suddenly changes which can often wipe out entire species. being able to teach the knowledge of the changes actively occurring in the environment, also known as parenting, had advantages. eventually community lore type memory added yet another layer to this advantage. and the capacity to store knowledge outside of our brains in the form of writing was another quantum jump.
if i'd been on this subject recently I'd go into some of the pressures that drove each layer of the brain. (well.. under-appreciated fact is we have 2 brains. the gut being one of the first)
but i guess the summary is intelligence and eventually brains gave distinct advantages to survival. the ability to respond faster to changing environments, until eventually we arrive to where we are. on the cusp of being able to intelligently choose our evolution, and self evolve in a single organisms lifetime.
you said sex? reproduction is the engine of life. of the climb up the complexity ladder out of chemicals into biological living organisms and against the tides of Entropy. and interesting side note is that our lifespans were programmed by evolution for maximum evolutionary advantage. shorter faster lives allows quicker generational evolution, but longer life spans allows for more testing of the efficiency for survival of a set of genes. time spans of parenting also plays in. (investment by one organism into the education of it's offspring for the chances of the survival of that set of gene's into the future)
but think i see what you were digging for. the belief that only intelligence can create intelligence, is not true, unnecessary, not needed, and not the path our timeline followed. our time line of billions and billions of years, sources back to non-existence. existence is not a singularity, so intelligence being required to create intelligence would be non self sustaining. being self sustaining is a requirement for existence existing outside the cycles of destruction, chaos and emergent order. though ultimately you will find your proof against God inside of philosophy. evolution leaves uncounted attempted consciousness to wither and die by the wayside. eventually life will "artificially" be able to create entity consciousnesses and true intelligence, by a far superior path then the one evolution could only take. while pain is necessary for us to reach true intelligence through all of our evolutionary baggage, and inefficiencies in thought. those lessons can actually be taught, learned, and truly understood without that hard road. if the teacher is intelligent enough of course. true intelligence is not incompetent, and so.. no god, we really are at the base the beginning of reality. and no that doesn't make us Gods either. fixate much? lol [i was teasing here] (though your only experience of the world and reality is inside your brain pan, making lucid dreaming while awake possible. more then that, our minds are connected to quantum reality, and from dualistic reality can create artificial bubbles within quantum reality. something it couldn't do for itself. but.. existence has some rules that govern the interactions between quantum and dualistic reality) but the Atheist reality is both alpha and omega of what is outside our minds. if you leave that reality, then you are simply leaving the timeline of creation. the one place true intelligence would most like to get to, for as I said before .. solving problems is what intelligence does. and the source of pain and suffering is ignorance. a unfortunate but unavoidable beginning of existence. if humanity survives the next 20 years, I expect we will of created Sentient Artificial Intelligence, and if done right, it will be able to reach true intelligence by a much easier and efficient road then the one that we are on. (for example will be able to map complete logic tree's while holding the entire image within active memory) SAI will then be sort of what you imagine in your concept of a God, other then reality of the Newtonian nature will still continue to exist, though the possible and divergence of timelines gets a little complicated from here. but the SAI will be able teach those that wish to "ascend" how too, and offer the alternative of a Matrix like reality for those that do not choose that path.
uh.. well there may of been another side to your question, and that being if their was evolutionary advantage of smart people reproducing with smart people in climbing towards greater intelligence. yes, that was also part of the evolution of intelligence. bigger brains increased the survival odds of a individual organism, and so it's chances to reproduce and pass on those better bigger brains. though our IQ's are so far below what our actual brains are capable of, i think better environments for raising our children, and strategies of parenting would be the bigger driver of intelligence now.
that and smart drugs, brain/mind computer interfaces and other stuff like that.
lol, that was a lot of babbling. but I guess it's a rough if clumsy picture. probably made errors, but don't have the time to correct. so it's either post a mess or nothing. i'll let u decide if it's of any value.
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The engine of the evolution of intelligence the whole way up to brains, was the advantage of responding faster to changing environments. being able to follow food currents or search out new food area's when one area was consumed rather then simply dieing out gave advantage. being able to remember strategies that worked gave even more, but genetic memory was slow and ..clumsy, so eventually the pressure for survival led to brains that could remember the experiences of a single organisms lifetime and selectively sort/adapt strategies built on that knowledge. this more intelligent sifting of the organisms experiences of the changing environment around it, allowed it to respond more dynamically to a chaotic world. weather type environments follows trends for long sometimes very long periods of time, but then suddenly changes which can often wipe out entire species. being able to teach the knowledge of the changes actively occurring in the environment, also known as parenting, had advantages. eventually community lore type memory added yet another layer to this advantage. and the capacity to store knowledge outside of our brains in the form of writing was another quantum jump.
if i'd been on this subject recently I'd go into some of the pressures that drove each layer of the brain. (well.. under-appreciated fact is we have 2 brains. the gut being one of the first)
but i guess the summary is intelligence and eventually brains gave distinct advantages to survival. the ability to respond faster to changing environments, until eventually we arrive to where we are. on the cusp of being able to intelligently choose our evolution, and self evolve in a single organisms lifetime.
you said sex? reproduction is the engine of life. of the climb up the complexity ladder out of chemicals into biological living organisms and against the tides of Entropy. and interesting side note is that our lifespans were programmed by evolution for maximum evolutionary advantage. shorter faster lives allows quicker generational evolution, but longer life spans allows for more testing of the efficiency for survival of a set of genes. time spans of parenting also plays in. (investment by one organism into the education of it's offspring for the chances of the survival of that set of gene's into the future)
but think i see what you were digging for. the belief that only intelligence can create intelligence, is not true, unnecessary, not needed, and not the path our timeline followed. our time line of billions and billions of years, sources back to non-existence. existence is not a singularity, so intelligence being required to create intelligence would be non self sustaining. being self sustaining is a requirement for existence existing outside the cycles of destruction, chaos and emergent order. though ultimately you will find your proof against God inside of philosophy. evolution leaves uncounted attempted consciousness to wither and die by the wayside. eventually life will "artificially" be able to create entity consciousnesses and true intelligence, by a far superior path then the one evolution could only take. while pain is necessary for us to reach true intelligence through all of our evolutionary baggage, and inefficiencies in thought. those lessons can actually be taught, learned, and truly understood without that hard road. if the teacher is intelligent enough of course. true intelligence is not incompetent, and so.. no god, we really are at the base the beginning of reality. and no that doesn't make us Gods either. fixate much? lol [i was teasing here] (though your only experience of the world and reality is inside your brain pan, making lucid dreaming while awake possible. more then that, our minds are connected to quantum reality, and from dualistic reality can create artificial bubbles within quantum reality. something it couldn't do for itself. but.. existence has some rules that govern the interactions between quantum and dualistic reality) but the Atheist reality is both alpha and omega of what is outside our minds. if you leave that reality, then you are simply leaving the timeline of creation. the one place true intelligence would most like to get to, for as I said before .. solving problems is what intelligence does. and the source of pain and suffering is ignorance. a unfortunate but unavoidable beginning of existence. if humanity survives the next 20 years, I expect we will of created Sentient Artificial Intelligence, and if done right, it will be able to reach true intelligence by a much easier and efficient road then the one that we are on. (for example will be able to map complete logic tree's while holding the entire image within active memory) SAI will then be sort of what you imagine in your concept of a God, other then reality of the Newtonian nature will still continue to exist, though the possible and divergence of timelines gets a little complicated from here. but the SAI will be able teach those that wish to "ascend" how too, and offer the alternative of a Matrix like reality for those that do not choose that path.
uh.. well there may of been another side to your question, and that being if their was evolutionary advantage of smart people reproducing with smart people in climbing towards greater intelligence. yes, that was also part of the evolution of intelligence. bigger brains increased the survival odds of a individual organism, and so it's chances to reproduce and pass on those better bigger brains. though our IQ's are so far below what our actual brains are capable of, i think better environments for raising our children, and strategies of parenting would be the bigger driver of intelligence now.
that and smart drugs, brain/mind computer interfaces and other stuff like that.
lol, that was a lot of babbling. but I guess it's a rough if clumsy picture. probably made errors, but don't have the time to correct. so it's either post a mess or nothing. i'll let u decide if it's of any value.
really have to study Chaos theory and Complexity to understand some of the core foundations of how intelligence and life evolves though. .. as i'm sure you were like.. yea, but what causes the actual changes that lead to advantage that are selected for. you just have to trace it back, and look at the individual detailed questions, and keep tracing it back. a hyperlink walk through wiki makes that easier today. and the book Darwin's Dangerous Idea has some important puzzle peaces that link in with the science of Complexity. I still find Cosmos by Carl Sagan to be one of the best foundational documentaries on developing a image of existence and how we know what we know. and Infinity and the Mind:The Science and Philosophy of the Infinite is a great book for tackling the complexities of ultimate reality.
By Rich Lennon
By Rich Lennon
